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3 Steps To Get Your Content To Connect To Start Conversations That Convert

by Brad Besancon

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Everyday in the digital industry we see so called Gurus and Ninjas speak and write about how business should use content and social media in marketing.  They use statements like “engaging content” and be sure “your content and social media is relevant.” What the heck does that mean?

Is what’s relevant to you relevant to me?  Probably not. So why don’t we look at some real-world concepts that we’ve learned in our experiences that should help answer these questions. [Read more…] about 3 Steps To Get Your Content To Connect To Start Conversations That Convert

Filed Under: Digital Marketing Tagged With: Audience, Authenticity, Authority, brand ambassadors, Communication, Connect, Conversation, Conversion, Digital media, Facebook, Instagram, Las Vegas, Rio Hotel, social media, Social Media & Networking, social media post, travel blogger, twitter, Web 2.0, Yahoo

How The 7A’s of Successful Crisis Management Can Save Your Brand

by Brad Besancon

Following These 7 Steps Can Help Your Brand Avoid A Reputation Disaster

In the wake of high profile incidents involving big brands, Clarity went to Texas A&M University to talk to a published expert on Crisis Management.

Professor Venky Shankar, Ph.D. in the Mays Business School conducted research on how poor crisis media management impacts the long term total dollar market value for a company’s outstanding shares known as market cap.

This is a long video conversation, but we think that executives and business owners can’t afford not to make time to watch it.

Does your company have a plan in place that uses the 7A’s of Crisis Management?

Transcript

Successful Crisis Management

Robert Riggs: Hi, it’s Robert and Brad with the Clarity Digital Clip of the Week. And we’re at the Texas A&M Campus at the Mays School of Business with Dr. Venky Shankar to talk about how do you respond to a crisis and think about it before it ever happens in a digital age?

Brad Besancon: Yeah. I think one of the things we’ve seen over the last probably couple of months is there has been lots of stuff going on out there with some crises with Starlines, the Starbucks, you’ve mentioned a new – one from 2016 that is re-service with American Airlines. And you kind of have a process of the 6, 7 A’s that you’d like to go through and teach. And we wanted to be sure we give this to our audience.

So tell us a little bit about your 6 A’s in a crisis management situation?

Robert Riggs: And this is research-based.

Venky Shankar: Yes, absolutely. And I’ve been doing a lot of research in crisis management particularly product harm crisis, product recalls, and trying to see what would be the best strategy. And I have the 6 to 7 A’s of crisis management. And before I go into that, let’s take the two examples that we briefly mentioned about.

You have the Starbucks situation and the American Airlines two years ago, the passenger passed away unfortunately because she could not get access to a doctor where the doctor on board asked it to be diverted and the American Airlines decided not to divert.

And the response of American Airlines was that, “We are looking into the complaint.” Whereas the response of Starbucks’ CEO as soon as the hand-cuffing of the African-American, two people happened, immediately apologized and wanted to have a face-to-face meeting with the these two people and also institute a racial …

Brad Besancon: They took control, right?

Venky Shankar: Yeah, they took control of racial profile, racial sensitivity training. They had instituted closing down all the locations. All of this is done very swiftly.

Robert Riggs: They treated them like humans.

Venky Shankar: Yes.

Robert Riggs: Their valued customers.

Venky Shankar: Exactly. And also very swiftly, all of these. And this is where the 6 A’s come in. The first A is to anticipate. Don’t wait for the crisis to really happen for you to act on it. So good firms nowadays in the digital age, that’s a difference between pre-digital age and digital and post-digital age. Social media and age social media where anything that happens, any negative event gets amplified and it gets stored and accumulated and then it gets viral.

And so, you don’t have the luxury of hoping that in the past, people say if crisis happens, wait for some time until you ascertain the facts, until it blows over, until it’s replaced by another crisis in the news. But now, you don’t have the luxury of it. So that’s why anticipating. What does anticipating mean? Having like a social media war room or command center where you monitor each and every thing that is said about your brand, shared about it, and pictures, videos that are being shard about you.

And Dell is a good example. They have a command center in which they 24/7 they monitor that. That’s a good …

Robert Riggs: Minute by minute.

Venky Shankar: Minute by minute, yeah.

Brad Besancon: Well, I think one of the thing we talked about previously was this, what better group to anticipate something going wrong than the people that are in your company?

Venky Shankar: Exactly.

Brad Besancon: To say, all right, here is a crisis.

Venky Shankar: How would you respond? That’s what I would suggest based on the research is that being proactive and anticipatory means that not only anticipating before a crisis hits but also preparing what to do when the crisis hits. By looking at others are teachable moments, right? If you are Dell and you look at the Southeast Airlines crisis, what would you have done if you had experienced that? So that’s the first A.

And then the second A is Acknowledge. Acknowledge something has happened.

It took about four days for the Facebook CEO to even come out of the hiding and say there is a problem that happened. That’s acknowledgment. And before that, it was too late. As you know, Facebook lost about 37 million market cap in the four days.

Brad Besancon: Yeah.

Venky Shankar: And then up to 75 million, and 5 billion later on. But that’s the second A.

And the third A is basically Apologize. Now, a lot of people think, “Wait a minute. My company may not be at fault. Why should we apologize?” But apology here really is the equivalent of empathizing with the affected party. It doesn’t necessarily mean you’re acknowledging liability or you’re saying you’re at fault. Apologies could be heartfelt, sincere, and it should resonate with the affected party.

Robert Riggs: But what if the lawyers write the apology and it is corporate speak.

Venky Shankar: It is unfortunate. And a lot of firms are boxed in by that. They issued very canned responses like, “We regret …”

Robert Riggs: Yeah.

Brad Besancon: That’s not the audience speaking.

Robert Riggs: And is that more harm?

Venky Shankar: That is more harmful because let me talk a little bit about my research. We had two papers published in the last two years in top journals and what we looked at was the impact of product recalls and especially in the automobile industry. What does it do to the brand equity or to the consumer trust in the brand and also the shareholder value of the brand? What does it depend on? And does it depend on not just the severity of the problem, the immediacy of action, and what did they develop voluntarily and come out with the admission? Or did they delay the corrective actions? Did they took – all of these we factored and took on.

What we found was the short time – yes, you can arrest the claim by just stalling it but in the long term, it hurts you more. And these are the kind of be truthful, think like a – when you are in a crisis, think like the customer. Do not think like a firm. That means if you’re CEO, you got to ask yourself, “What if I’m the affected customer or the family? Then how would I respond? What would I want the firm to do for me?”

Brad Besancon: I think you said it best in very business technical terms, “Just do what’s right.”

Venky Shankar: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. As simple as it sounds, people I know understand. And that’s why we did the research to show the long-term effects. This only shows up in the long-term and that sometimes firms do not wait that long to see the effects.

Brad Besancon: Yeah.

Venky Shankar: And corresponding to that is admit. If you have anything to do with that, admit even if – you don’t have to be perfectly at fault, even if you are partially at fault.

So take the example of United CEO, when a passenger, Dr. Dao, was dragged off the plane. First reaction was to say the employees did the right thing without really thinking through the issue. Not only does it not show the empathy but also it shows the lack of willingness to admit.

Obviously, even if there was something wrong with the passenger, nobody should be dragged. At least, that was – you don’t need to do an investigation. You should have admitted it, right?

Brad Besancon: Yeah. We don’t need three days to analyze that.

Venky Shankar: Exactly. So I think that’s – the fifth A is Amend. Make amends. Fix the problem genuinely. Don’t just show superficially that you’re changing something. Show how you fix it. So if it’s a car recall, show how nicely it’s done, how clearly it’s done, how they are compensated, what changes you made to the process.

People want assurance. It’s all about brand trust.

Brad Besancon: Absolutely.

Venky Shankar: Can I trust this brand again whether it’s Southwest, American, Facebook, Equifax, all of these brands that get diluted? And can I trust this brand? The only way you can do that is to show that you fixed the process that leads to this problem.

Brad Besancon: It shouldn’t happen in the future.

Venky Shankar: Right.

Robert Riggs: And are we in a low trust environment these studies online?

Venky Shankar: Very, very. Unfortunately in this digital social media world, people’s trust of brand is very low because they are not listening to the brand messages. They are farming their own messages. And they may actually take over the brand message if the firms do not anticipate that and do the correct thing.

Robert Riggs: And one of the things we say is that if you don’t tell your own story in an authentic, empathetic manner, someone else is going to tell it in a whole different way.

Venky Shankar: Different way.

Robert Riggs: And you would not like it.

Venky Shankar: And you may not have control over it beyond a point in time. And that’s where …

Brad Besancon: And it can happen that quick.

Venky Shankar: Right.

Brad Besancon: That’s the other thing that a lot of clients don’t understand is it can happen in minutes.

Venky Shankar: Right. And that’s where the sixth A comes in, which is really you want basically your affected customers to become an ambassador for the brand, so you want advocacy. So the sixth A is Advocate.

So in other words, get the affected people to come out and say, “Wow! This company really reacted correctly, quickly, fixed the problem. I want to trust this brand for the long term.

Brad Besancon: I mean we saw – I saw that in social media with the Southwest issue and accident that the amount of people that came on to their Facebook pages and in their social media supporting Southwest just saying, “Thank you for doing what you’re doing. Thank you for getting the plane down safe.”

Venky Shankar: Right. I think that’s a great example.

Brad Besancon: That’s a perfect example of right in the middle of a crisis. I mean they would put up a statement on Facebook and then thousands of people would come in and say, “Thank you and thanks for helping out and taking control of the situation.”

Venky Shankar: Right. And I think that leads me to the seventh A is that advertising your brand. Have faith in your brand. Show that signal and do not play hide and seek. A lot of times when firms have crisis, they stopped advertising because they don’t want the brand name to be in the public. I mean definitely by all means, do good promotions and make sure that they are compensated and so on. But maintain a steady level of faith in your brand and show that faith.

Brad Besancon: It’s back to if you stand by yourself, I’ll stand by you. I’ll stay with you.

Venky Shankar: Exactly.

Brad Besancon: And again, you bring up that same process kind of mentality up, if you keep kind of a steady flow, they’ll stay with you along that road trip if you will.

Venky Shankar: Absolutely.

Brad Besancon: They’ll stay with you if you kind of keep steady.

Robert Riggs: So it strikes me, there’s actually an 8th A here that ought to be part of each and every step of the seven and that is Authenticity.

Venky Shankar: Absolutely.

Brad Besancon: Every one of those adds up to authenticity.

Venky Shankar: Right. All the 7 A’s if you do it correctly, your brand becomes very authentic and most likeable, desirable. People will stick with your brand and they will almost internalize and start saying, “Hey, I want to support this brand. It could happen to me.” That’s the kind of empathy that you want, the reverse empathy you want.

Brad Besancon: Rob and I talked about that if you’re doing the right steps, no matter what social advertising, if you’re doing everything that we’re talking about here, it gets you right here.

Venky Shankar: At the heart, yeah.

Brad Besancon: It gets you right there in the chest and the heart. It becomes an emotional connection, not a product or service connection. That’s often really where you’re trying to get.

Venky Shankar: Absolutely.

Robert Riggs: So you as a leader of your business or organization need to be asking, do I have the 7 A’s in place and how do I do that?

We’re going to put some resources online that you can read the doctor’s papers and we want to thank you for hosting us here at Texas A&M at the Mays School of Business. What a fantastic place.

Venky Shankar: Thank you.

Robert Riggs: We really enjoyed it. Thank you.

Brad Besancon: Thanks again.

Venky Shankar: Thank you, Brad. And thank you, Robert.

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If You Will Let People Talk They Will Tell You What They Want

by Brad Besancon

Sean Jackson, CFO and Partner of Rainmaker Digital Says Don’t Interrupt Your Customers Online Conversations

Transcript

Robert: I’m Robert. We got Brad here, with Sean Jackson, the CFO of Rainmaker Digital and we’ve known each other way back to Pubcon and you were the President of the Dallas Ad League. You’ve done it all from old – what we like about you, you are old media.

 

Brad: Old school marketing.

 

Robert: Old school marketing and now digital.

 

Sean: There you go.

 

Robert: So Brad is going to tell you about one of the challenges we run into in a process we use called “Listen, think, speak,” and we’re going to talk to you about “Listen”.

 

Sean: OK.

 

Brad: Yeah. So one of the things we find, Sean, is that companies don’t take the time to listen. They just want to sell, sell, sell or promote, promote, promote and they don’t take the time to really listen first to say, “What is it about my audience or customers or prospects that I need to take and then develop a plan or marketing plan off this?”

 

Give us a little idea about how you’ve seen that in the digital world, how you see things work, how you see things that haven’t worked. Just give us some of your insights.

 

Sean: I’m sorry. I wasn’t listening. Oh, wait a minute! No. I think that is the toughest part. I think in a sales-driven culture especially, everyone is so excited to get out there selling, right?

 

Brad: It’s all about the money.

 

Sean: Yeah, that’s right. I need to sell you and even if somebody says, “Wait, wait, wait. I’m ready to buy,” it’s like, well, I haven’t sold you enough yet, right?

 

Brad: There’s more. I need to talk more.

 

Sean: And I think it’s because typically in sales organizations, you have dynamic people wanting to speak, et cetera. But I think we’ve always found over history, between all media, that when we take time to listen, the most successful sales technique is listening.

 

I think the digital age has actually made it easier for us to listen than it has been in the past. So with all that said, if you’re not prepared to really take the time and understand that if you let people talk, they will tell you exactly what they want.

 

Brad: Exactly what they want. Yes. So you spoke the digital age makes it easier to listen. Tell us how you’ve seen that in real life. What is it in the digital world that makes it easier to listen? I’m not talking about software. Let’s get to a better level.

 

Sean: Sure.

 

Brad: We all have little buttons we can push. Let’s talk on a deeper level. What are some of the things you’ve seen that help you listen better?

 

Sean: Well, I think when it comes to businesses, certainly a lot of people now are feeling comfortable asking questions on the internet. So let’s go through the very basics. Google, right? Google Trends will tell you what type of topics seem to be trending or not, right? That’s a very informal way of seeing where a topic is and how it is –

 

Brad: Speaking of Google.

 

Sean: You know, basically how in Google Trends you can see how people are talking in an indirect way. But then even more intimate is all of our social media channels, right? When you’re looking on LinkedIn, you’re looking on Quora, you’re looking on Facebook, people are posting things out there and asking questions or they’re responding to questions that come up.

 

So I think from an observation standpoint, there are many, many ways out there. One of my favorite tools for listening is actually Quora because Quora, people are asking questions and people are giving responses.

 

Brad: Yeah.

 

Sean: So I think we have a way to be a little bit more sophisticated in how we hear people at a broad level. But then of course at a business level, there are different techniques that are needed.

 

[End of transcript]

Filed Under: Digital Marketing Tagged With: Brad Besancon, CFO, CFO and Partner, Chief financial officer, Clarity Digital, Dallas Ad League, Economy, Facebook, favorite tools, google+, LinkedIn, Online Conversations, President, QUORA, Rainmaker, Rainmaker Digital, Sean Jackson, Search Engines, Social Media & Networking, social media channels

There’s A Screen Between You And Your Customers. Is Your Brand Present?

by Brad Besancon

Mobile First: The Screen Between Your Audience and Your Brand

Transcript

VideoTranscript

 

Brad: Well, hello everyone. It’s Brad and Robert with Clarity Clip again and we are sitting in NorthPark Center Mall here in Dallas, Texas and we’re – it actually is Valentine’s Day and we’re wandering around here doing some observations, some – listening to things, speak research. What are we seeing?

 

Robert: Well, we’re seeing couples on Valentine’s, a special moment, and they’re going, “Hey, honey. I love you,” and she’s sitting right over there.

 

Brad: Yeah, they’re texting.

 

Robert: Oh, I love you too.

 

Brad: It’s the screen between.

 

Robert: Smile, heart, heart, heart.

 

Brad: The screen between.

 

Robert: Yes.

Experiencing Life With The Screen Between

Brad: The screen between. And one of the things we’ve really noticed – I mean this isn’t new, right folks? This isn’t new. But really over the last couple of years, it has really gotten bad, if we can say bad. But what we call it now is we call it life being experienced with a screen between. We don’t just go to a kid’s event anymore. We don’t go to a football game anymore. We don’t come to the mall anymore without doing what? We’re on our phone.

 

Robert: Yes.

 

Brad: And we can’t just watch our child sing or dance. We have to video it. “What do they do with all the video?” I wonder. What do people do with all that video if they get done with it? This is so bad that I heard the social secretary for President George W. Bush talk about – it became an issue in the White House and these are big, high-end donors. They’re all aged. They’re baby boomers. They’re older and stuff and they started getting complaints at all the events for the donors and supporters that no one can see the president because everybody has got –

 

Brad: Everybody has got – everybody is doing this.

 

Robert: Yeah. So they literally – the Secret Service had a bucket as you would go in and they started collecting them. So the fact that that demographic –

 

Brad: It’s not millennials. It’s not just millennials.

 

Robert: It’s everywhere.

 

Brad: It’s everyone.

 

Robert: That’s what our clients do not understand.

Think Mobile First With Web Design

Brad: Yes. One of the things we’re also seeing, which we’ve been preaching, we’ve been talking about for years in our company is you better be thinking mobile first. With website design, you better be thinking mobile first. With photography, content.

 

How is your social media? You know, 60 something percent of our time online now is in social media. So how are you using this to better your brand and your connection? Because there’s no more, “Hey Robert, do you know somebody that does this?” and I just – yeah, call this guy and I just call him. It’s over.

 

Robert: So first off, if your team in your company and marketing, there’s – talking about a new website or they’re talking about what they do on Facebook, you have to first look, “Well, what does that look like on the mobile phone?”

Think Mobile First and Responsive Design

Brad: On the phone, on a 4.5, 5-inch screen, not a 27-inch desktop anymore.

 

Robert: You as the executive and business owner, you might be still looking at the desktop. But I got to tell you something. You’re not your customer. That’s not the way they experience the world. It’s not the way they’re going to experience your product or your service.

AudienceSpeak: Communicating Your Message & Brand Through The Screen

Brad: Yeah, it’s right back to audience speak. What is the people you’re trying to target doing? How are they interacting with your brand? How are they interacting with life? Which now we interact with life right here now.

 

Robert: Yeah.

 

Brad: We don’t just come to a mall anymore and hang out. We’ve got to show on Instagram. We got to check in. We got to do all this stuff. Mobile, mobile, mobile because we are living in a screen between lifestyle now. So you have to think, “How can I get in between my potential client or customer’s life with that screen between?”

 

So whatever they’re experiencing, how do I interject my brand into that screen between to really connect and converse and then ultimately convert, right? That’s what we’re here for. So that’s our Clarity Clip of the week. We will see you here in the next couple of weeks and guys, get out there and enjoy life. Put the screen between down.

 

Robert: Thank you.

 

[End of transcript]

 

Filed Under: Digital Marketing Tagged With: brand, cellular telephone, Dallas, executive, Facebook, George W. Bush, Human Interest, Instagram, mobile, Mobile phone, President, Secret Service, social media, Social Media & Networking, social secretary for President George W. Bush, time online, White House

How Social Media Souped Up The Ringbrothers Hot Rod Business

by Brad Besancon

Brad Besancon talks to Mike Ring of the Ringbrothers at SEMA 2017 about how Facebook marketing expanded their custom car business to an international market. If these Baby Boomer hot rod builders use social media, don’t you think it’s about time you started?

Transcript

Brad Besancon: Hello, everyone. It’s Brad with Clarity again and we have the honor of sitting here with Mr. Ring of Ring Brothers and we are going to talk a little bit about social media. We’re not going to talk too much about cars which is kind of odd for you, isn’t it?

Mike Ring: It is, yes. It’s the end of 2017, same line, it’s been all cars.

Brad: So yesterday, we were in a Hot Rod Association panel with you and listened to you, and you indicated how important social has become to your business in kind of bringing on the passion of the next generation. Tell me a little bit about when you guys realized that social should be a part of kind of your overall business model.

Mike: Well, I got to tell you, we were pretty late in the game. I mean social has been around – we didn’t pick up on it until probably five years ago, how important it was and I’ll tell you, it was truly important. I mean, it got us to be able to reach out and find people and have people find us that we’d never have the opportunity to get. That includes all over the world. I mean, we’ve got customers from London, England. We’ve got a customer from Russia. You can’t get that without social media.

Brad: Right, and it just helps you spread your message and what you’re doing, and your passion for cars because you guys are very unique in what you do. You guys talked about that yesterday, about how it’s your kind of model and what you do, so you realized that, and then what did you start doing? Did you just jump in there full-fledged or did you like, “Hey, what do we do with this stuff?”

Mike: It was honestly way over our head. We had to hire a company to do it. Our sales went up, everything about it was good. Today, I don’t know how you could be without it.

Brad: Yes, and so let’s talk about that. So here we are, it’s not a typical business. We heard that also in the seminar, “I don’t use social, I don’t use social,” and then here’s The Ringbrothers using socials. How has it influenced business from a standpoint – because you guys do a lot – you don’t just build cars. You do parts and some other things.

Mike: We also do collision work.

Brad: So how has that affected your overall business?

Mike: It’s tremendously, like I said, you could get customers that you could never get without it and it also allows people, to really show them what you’re doing. The followers we have right now, I mean, I don’t even know the exact numbers, a couple hundred thousand Facebook, which that’s a couple hundred thousand people. That’s a lot of audience for just kind of starting out into this.

Brad: Yes, and you never know which one is going to pick up the phone and call you and say, “Hey, man, I really liked what you did. Can you do that for me?” So let’s talk about what you are doing. How do you use, let’s say Facebook or social media now in kind of keeping that connection with your customers and your fan base?

Mike: I think just showing everybody what we’re doing from start to finish is a big part of that. It’s one thing to show somebody a final product but it gets them engaged when you’re showing them little pieces here and making them wait for the final, the final ending.

Brad: It makes them a part of it, right?

Mike: It does, it brings them around, makes them part of the build, part of the process, and I think it’s exciting.

Brad: Yes, I think it is too, and they are killing it on social so if you guys are into cars and like custom builds, get over here and watch these guys. They are doing a great job. Hey, thanks for your time.

Mike: You’re welcome.

Brad: I really appreciate it.

Mike: Thank you so much.

Brad: Congratulations on everything.

Mike: I appreciate that.

Brad: Alright.

Filed Under: Social Media Tagged With: Automotive industry, Baby boomers, Brad Besancon, car, Custom car, Digital media, DIY culture, Facebook, Hot rod, hot rod builders use social media, Human Interest, Mike Ring, SEMA, social media, Social Media & Networking, Transport, Vehicle modification, Visual arts

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